tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4543780223348795372.post2851181408667220693..comments2023-01-31T08:19:00.412+00:00Comments on Ugh, it's him!: Democracy, Principles and SacrificesUgh, It's Him!http://www.blogger.com/profile/06194792008692398706noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4543780223348795372.post-34932492015786327332010-06-17T15:39:54.367+01:002010-06-17T15:39:54.367+01:00Why do I feel he has lost the plot?
For one thing,...Why do I feel he has lost the plot?<br />For one thing, the impression that I get from reading his blog that he sees every manifestation of systemic weakness as another link in a grand plot. Probably some bits do join up, but I think parallel failures are a far more credible explanation.<br />For another, his consistent bad judgement in his conduct over the last three years. He has not made effective use of his powers as a States Member. He has wilfully derelicted his duty. He has turned on all allies of sufficient status not to play a totally subordinate role. He has mocked the rule of law. Gossip about his personal habits, and he and I have many mutual friends and acquaintances, resonates with an eye-opening meal he and I had with some of those mutual friends many years ago, at which he reminisced about surprisingly louche behaviour for a man of such a priggish demeanour. He has been generally reckless and irresponsible. As an ex-supporter of his, I now feel let down to the point of disgust by his antics.Ugh, It's Him!https://www.blogger.com/profile/06194792008692398706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4543780223348795372.post-48256292839783380832010-06-16T16:38:02.461+01:002010-06-16T16:38:02.461+01:00"Ugh, It's Him! said...
And I won..."Ugh, It's Him! said...<br /><br /> And I won't because that is not all he tells, and because the trouble with him is not that the plot is against him, but that he has lost it."<br /><br />Could you expand upon that please?<br /><br />One thing I've noticed common to people who rubbish Syvret, and it gets very boring very quickly, is a tendency to to cast forth derogatory one-liner assertions without giving any explanation to their reasoning. <br /><br />Such as you have just done.<br /><br />I would seriously be interested to hear why you believe he has lost the plot. I know you're more than intelligent enough to be capable of justifying your comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4543780223348795372.post-78869832376437077492010-06-02T18:17:07.005+01:002010-06-02T18:17:07.005+01:00UGH what rubbish you talkUGH what rubbish you talkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4543780223348795372.post-45133948205007398142010-06-01T23:05:50.564+01:002010-06-01T23:05:50.564+01:00And I won't because that is not all he tells, ...And I won't because that is not all he tells, and because the trouble with him is not that the plot is against him, but that he has lost it.Ugh, It's Him!https://www.blogger.com/profile/06194792008692398706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4543780223348795372.post-45963018895482682242010-06-01T21:45:04.194+01:002010-06-01T21:45:04.194+01:00I will vote for syvret because he tells the truth....I will vote for syvret because he tells the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4543780223348795372.post-44716375789171494332010-06-01T16:57:50.291+01:002010-06-01T16:57:50.291+01:00Syvret flogs the same dead horse at every election...Syvret flogs the same dead horse at every election. The public are bored, weary, fed up of the same non directional rubbish he spouts. So I agree with Urg.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4543780223348795372.post-72067294253087218662010-06-01T00:00:19.611+01:002010-06-01T00:00:19.611+01:00Traitors to whom?
Even if we thought Syvret were K...Traitors to whom?<br />Even if we thought Syvret were King, (I assume you mean traitors to him) he abdicated last year, so the deal is broken at his end.<br />Only Syvret never would join forces with the others on our side, so we never owed him any loyalty in return anyway.<br />The Syvret fan club are like the soldier's mother in the old joke: "Did you see my boy in the parade? - He was the only one marching in step."Ugh, It's Him!https://www.blogger.com/profile/06194792008692398706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4543780223348795372.post-34264199214013333252010-05-31T20:11:21.573+01:002010-05-31T20:11:21.573+01:00TraitorsTraitorsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4543780223348795372.post-44378699994397780812010-05-31T02:13:46.086+01:002010-05-31T02:13:46.086+01:00Will Jersey remember Geoff Southern as the world r...Will Jersey remember Geoff Southern as the world remembers Ralph Nada, that good chap who siphoned off just enough winning votes to cost Al Gore the US election? That, and some Republican establishment vote theft in Florida brought the planet 8 years of Bushworld.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4543780223348795372.post-89410308805917319312010-05-30T15:13:38.218+01:002010-05-30T15:13:38.218+01:00Dear Ugh,
The description 'swivel-eyed and fr...Dear Ugh,<br /><br />The description 'swivel-eyed and frothy-mouthed' was a reference to the tone of your article with lots of things written in capital letters, and absolutely no reflection on, I am sure, your perfect eye and saliva control. <br /><br />So, the JDA Council took a democratic decision that Geoff should stand and you were in a small minority who disagreed. Understood perfectly - any member of a democratic organisation should respect the right of the majority to choose tactics. I am also glad to see that the JDA respects a minority's right to dissent.<br /><br />So then - maybe it would be interesting to explore the thinking behind your majority's decision.<br /><br />The last few years the JDA has been campaigning for more economic fairness in Jersey,and your interventions on such issues have gained the JDA support, or if not support, at least grudging respect.<br /><br />On the other hand you have been less vocal on, for want of a better term, civil liberties issues. For example: a gerrymandered electoral system that overrepresents the privileged sections of society, historical child abuse and the inability of victims to obtain redress within the system, political interference in policing, ending in a Kafkaesque 'neutral' suspension of a Chief Police Officer for nearly two years, a three year suspension of an innocent hospital consultant and so on and so on. And of course the hounding of opposition politicians reminiscent of the East European Regimes during their death throes. No bullets in the back of the neck, but police harassment, continuous abuse of process by Data Protection Officer who thinks she is the Supreme State Censor and a States Privileges Committee that thinks its job is to intimidate States Members who are 'impolite.'<br /><br />That's quite a catalogue of abuse, but the JDA, whilst I'm sure opposed to all of these things, did not see these as issues to 'run with.' Maybe you did not see that Jersey has many more people these days who are well informed and not prepared to tug their forelocks to their betters any more.<br /><br />So to a certain extent you've been outflanked to your 'left' on civil liberties issues by people who may be to your right on economic issues. (There is an interesting parallel with the troubles of New Labour recently, perhaps.)<br /><br />The most popular and successful of these is perhaps Stuart. I am not sure whether he is more right wing on economic issues. And now he wants to form a party and he does not want to work with you. As far as I can tell, he sees you as Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition - not that bothered by the Kafka going around you, maybe justifying your inaction as a Party by saying that your core supporters don't read the Guardian... <br /><br />So faced with this, there's always two ways to jump:<br /><br />embrace these issues as your own, extend the good work that Trevor has been doing - and in this election support Stuart (as critically as you want...)<br /><br />or:<br /><br />Do a Life of Brian -<br /><br />There's one thing we hate more than the Establishment and that's Stuart Syvret and his Alliance of Jersey Democrats - splitters!<br /><br />or in other words:<br /><br />We are the pure selected few<br />And all the rest are damned<br />There’s room enough in hell for you<br />We don’t want heaven crammed.Other Exilenoreply@blogger.com